[tech] Why we should not use Mint as the SOE

Bob Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au
Thu Apr 10 21:18:39 WST 2014


My experience for dual booting machines in UCC so far is that the 
lesser-used OS becomes hopelessly out of date, and then when you do boot 
into the lesser-used OS you spend all your time updating it or being 
pestered by update messages. It gets worse the more operating systems you 
add to a machine. If you want a consistent+identical environment to boot to 
for things like the fresher welcome, what about imaging a bunch of USB 
sticks and booting all the machines off those? Bam, guaranteed to be up to 
date and consistent for all users at the event, and we can even use the 
windows machines.

Bob

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mitchell Pomery
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:37 PM
To: Sam Moore
Cc: tech at ucc.asn.au
Subject: Re: [tech] Why we should not use Mint as the SOE

I'm not suggesting all of them run this setup as the default install, I'm
suggesting this as a secondary OS that runs on all UCC's machines that we
can boot into when need be.

Mint would be my preference because of the default UI I had when using it,
and Debian would follow, but they are the only OS's that I've properly
used outside UCC.

We could debate this at the yet to be announced, upcoming wheel meeting!
[BG3]

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Sam Moore wrote:

> My personal preference would be debian (stable... not testing) with MATE.
> It actually comes with menus by default. KDE would also be acceptable.
>
> I think the diversity in our desktops is actually a good thing
> and it is cooler to have this diversity on actual physical machines
> people can sit down and use than pointing them at VMs.
>
> We *could* adopt a blanket Mint policy,  but it isn't fun to update, it
> doesn't have a net installer, there are no menus by default,
> and the default login manager is completely and utterly broken.
>
> [SZM]
>
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Mitchell Pomery wrote:
>
>> But we should have some setup so that every machine has the same UI when 
>> we
>> want to try show people how to do things (i.e. Fresher Welcome, 
>> Introduction
>> to Programming).
>>
>> If not Mint, what?
>>
>> [BG3]
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Sam Moore wrote:
>>
>>> [SLX] tried to update it, this was apparently extremely difficult.
>>>
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