[tech] A question of File System

[Ian McKellar]

On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 01:40, David Cake wrote:
> At 3:48 PM -0700 23/4/02, Ian McKellar scribbled:
> >On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 13:29, David Cake wrote:
> >
> >A friend of mine (a long-time NeXTStep user) tried running OS X with
> >UFS. It became clear very quickly that Apple just don't test that :-/
> >>
> 
> 	And plenty of open source projects that should know better 
> assume all the worlds case sensitive, too.

I'm sure most will accept a patch :)

Apple just shouldn't have made UFS an option if they weren't going to
commit the QA resources to it. HFS+ has certainly worked well enough for
me when I've used MacOS X.
> 
> >Yeah, some of my friends at Apple are frustrated by a lot of that. Some
> >of the NeXT people don't want to have inode monitoring (like linux's
> >dnotify/imon/fam, freebsd's kqueue, irix's imon/fam, BeOS had it, WinNT
> >has it...). I think my housemate (who works on the OS X display server)
> >is just gonna hack it into Darwin :)
> 
> 	Some of the NeXT guys seem stuck in a bit of a time warp as 
> regards Unix stuff. Hopefully Jordan Hubbard will set them right.

Hopefully, but he is a FreeBSD person :(
I had a preliminary interview with the filesystem group at Apple before
I came to Danger and they seemed like a bunch of smart people.

> At 
> least he will hopefully make them remove all those man pages that 
> were last updated in 1993 and document things that no longer ship 
> with Darwin.

Yeah, when I was looking for audio docs all I could find were man pages
on drivers for ISA cards that OpenSTEP supported...
> 
> >A couple of my friend who work on the Finder were at Be, one (Pavel) was
> >the guy who did most of the work on the Tracker (their file manager)
> >which exploited extended attributes extensively. Once they get that the
> >Finder might kick ass.
> 
> 	Tracker did it right. A similar system would be a good thing. 
> I'm glad to hear some clueful people are working in the area.

Yeah, I've got a lot of hope for it. Right now Finder is just not that
good. Working on Nautilus raised my expectations of file managers
significantly.
> 
> 	A lot of Apple seems to currently be stuck in a warring 
> tribes mentality. And the current management of software don't seem 
> to be fixing it*. In at least one case I have satisfied myself that 
> this is because they are an idiot :-)
> 
> *excluding Bud Tribble, who hasn't been at Apple long, and might turn 
> out to be good.

Bud kicks ass. He was my manager at Eazel and in spite of being busy
doing VPish stuff he still managed to be a decent manager. I hear rumors
that Avi will be retiring soon... All rumors I assure you...

Ian

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